![]() For that reason, I would say that every class should get an iframe of some sort. That's the power of random attack patterns. That said, the game can still throw BS at you, that without iframes, you WILL die. The video is at least a better argument than "TMS can do it, so can you." I actually do agree that iframe skills aren't mandatory on all classes 90%> of the time. Plus that video shows nothing, is like saying phantom isnt weaker rhan other classes just because he participates in hard bossing runs o.o, juat because someone cna do it without iframes the rest of us can I'd be more than happy to help you make this happen. ![]() Let me ask you something though: Would you be willing to trade Last Resort for Ethereal Form? 2sec i-frame for 40% final damage? Because you're complaining about i-frames but you do 40% more final damage. These days iframes are mandatpry for end game bosses, all new classes have them and are strong so ur point is invalid, exp boost isnt mandatory in bosses, iframes are, so ur point is quite invalidĮxcuse me? Nw is way stronguer than NL right now so idk y are u complaining rn, im not complaining about nw i juat want to have an iframe and since other similar jobs have them, and are extremwlly strong, having an iframe too wont damage anyone, nw will stilll be strong as hell qnd nl will have more survivavility, everyone wins,plus nw is gwtting a huge buff soon while nl is getting nothing so yeah, again, ur point is invalid. Yes, I'm being petty, but the reason so is because the op wants to buff his job with the strengths of another similar job without any of the cons (in comparison) of the same job. Yes, but again, that changes the argument to "everyone class to should have at least one iframe" (which I don't disagree with the reasoning/logic) instead of "NL should have an iframe since NW has iframe" (which I do disagree with the reasoning/logic). Of course they have to be careful with something like that because then you're just giving out more iframes to iframe heavy classes. If there was a common iframe skill in 5th job (similar to how there's a common bind) it would fix this problem. I would say that ALL CLASSES need at least one iframe skill. Having a "get out of jail free card" is required for some of the BS the game throws at you. I haven't really played either class extensively, so I can't speak for how well the two survive or DPS compared to each other.Ī class doesn't NEED iframes to survive, playing a class that has the tools to survive without them well (Like NL I guess) is possible.īut sometimes BS can happen, which is where a long CD short duration iframe can come in handy, which is why I assume that mages get it. There's beast tamer (lol) that has both an EXP/Drop Boost (Arby form) and a massive 30 second iframe skill. Haven't played a bishop, so I don't know if they have iframes, but I'm going off the assumption they don't (I know that Heaven's Door is a revive, not an iframe), then my original logic of a job having either only iframe or exp/drop boost but not both still holds (yes, I'm sure there's jobs that have both, but I'm just saying Bishop because that's the specific job you pointed out), while the op's wish to have both does not.īishop does have iframes, Ethereal Form it's not an iframe unique to it, but it is there. If this was the case, Bishop requires a nerf." would make sense, but that isn't the case. the op's logic was every other job has an iframe, then yes, you're statement of saying "No character should be locked out of bossing simply because they have an EXP boost. Yes, I'm being simple-minded and selfish.Īlso, not saying it's an iframe, but NL's have Shadow Walker which lets them avoid some attacks (not saying all, but still a it's that easy to get, then it wouldn't be such a big deal to lose it according to you. Hence I was following that logic and saying, "since NW doesn't have small exp+drop boost, NL shouldn't have small exp+drop boost". The op's original logic was the "since NW has iframe, NL should have iframe".
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